From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 8 22:40:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4293616A426 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 22:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6608243D45 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 22:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from UTDEVS08.campus.ad.utdallas.edu (utdex08.utdallas.edu [129.110.70.103]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC3038A066 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 17:40:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [129.110.3.28] ([129.110.3.28]) by UTDEVS08.campus.ad.utdallas.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 May 2006 17:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <445FC8D3.7020305@utdallas.edu> Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 17:40:19 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060504) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20060508200926.GA6005@daemons.gr> <20060508212441.GB767@picobyte.net> <20060508213504.GB73976@daemons.gr> <445FC2C0.40700@utdallas.edu> <20060508222119.GA87391@daemons.gr> In-Reply-To: <20060508222119.GA87391@daemons.gr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010803090800080401010106" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2006 22:40:13.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EE34CF0:01C672F0] Subject: Re: ports structure and improvement suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 22:40:15 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010803090800080401010106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sideris Michael wrote: > > So, more or less you suggest to leave it in the chaotic situation it is now. > Sorry but i disagree. > No, I'm suggesting that what you see as chaos isn't. If there are no KNOBS or OPTIONS required for a port (and there are many like that), then why would you want to force all ports to have them? Do you really want to display an empty screen just for "uniformity's" sake? There are times when OPTIONS is appropriate. There are times when it is definitely not. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all port structure. I have ports that compile and ports that simply unzip and install. I have ports that require OPTIONS because the user has to decide between two different database types, and I have ports that have no OPTIONS or KNOBS at all because there's absolutely nothing to do. Furthermore, I may want to *force* a use to use a KNOB because I know that, if I don't, it won't compile correctly. Or I may want to use OPTIONS because I *don't* want to force the user to use a specific version of something. That isn't chaos. That's flexibility. Start maintaining some ports and you will quickly understand what I'm saying. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --------------ms010803090800080401010106 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIOyjCC A9gwggNBoAMCAQICEAKtnrSFCASWdA6c5IDs7CIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgcExCzAJBgNV BAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjE8MDoGA1UECxMzQ2xhc3MgMiBQdWJs aWMgUHJpbWFyeSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eSAtIEcyMTowOAYDVQQLEzEoYykg MTk5OCBWZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLiAtIEZvciBhdXRob3JpemVkIHVzZSBvbmx5MR8wHQYDVQQL ExZWZXJpU2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMB4XDTk5MDMzMTAwMDAwMFoXDTA3MDExNDIzNTk1 OVowgeoxJzAlBgNVBAoTHlRoZSBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIFRleGFzIFN5c3RlbTEfMB0GA1UE 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