From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 13:00:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9B16A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:00:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746B43D49 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3842234498F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:00:57 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <649200329.20050211081852@wanadoo.fr> References: <649200329.20050211081852@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <621dabed4fc2996ae4cb3a2929d6842c@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:00:54 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:00:59 -0000 On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original >> debate. > > Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign. Just to sum up things as I understand it... People want to change the logo from Beastie to something else because Beastie isn't professional enough, so some committers decided to hold a contest for a new logo? Out of curiosity, is Beastie so terrible, a logo, that a business would be stupid enough to base their server decisions based on it? Would you care if a business were that dumb...would you actually *want* them using it? Someone said people change logos all the time. That's flat out wrong. When a company spends mucho dinero on marketing their logo, they don't just flip around and decide to change their logo that they spent so much money and time getting mindshare with. Have any examples of logos that have constantly changed? Windows' logo isn't even a logo. It's a flag of a window pane falling apart in the breeze. I associate windows with broken glass. These things don't seem to hinder Windows from getting massive market share. Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and not by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that is trying to steer FreeBSD into the business sector? Is FreeBSD starting to have marketing dictate technology instead of technology dictate marketing? Or is this all some sneaky way of saying that Beastie is too much like the Devil and this new logo contest is a way to slip out the connotative Beastie with some other more politically correct symbol, like the drive in American classrooms for Intelligent Design to be taught in science classes ("It's not Creationism! It's not Creationism! It's *science*...") Just asking, since I was largely ignoring the thread but got curious after so MANY posts were made about the topic.