From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 20:35:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC13B45C for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (si-002-i86.relay.mailchannels.net [173.236.122.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479942D40 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:35:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (ip-10-218-133-212.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.218.133.212]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C058A10037A; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:40:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.244.170.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.1.2); Mon, 12 May 2014 19:40:43 GMT X-MC-Relay: Forwarding X-MailChannels-SenderId: _forwarded-from%7C107.201.34.133 X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia Received: from [10.0.10.1] (107-201-34-133.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [107.201.34.133]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 12:40:35 -0700 Message-ID: <537123B3.5080309@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:40:35 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Evans Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] WITH_NEW_XORG is now the default on FreeBSD 10 and 9 stable References: <201404161828.s3GISoA3071853@svn.freebsd.org> <534ECCE7.7050204@freebsd.org> <5370F453.3000602@a1poweruser.com> <53710066.7080407@daemonic.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:35:51 -0000 Tom Evans wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Niclas Zeising > wrote: >> On 05/12/14 18:18, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> My host is running 10.0-RELEASE-p2 with jails. I would like to test new >>> xorg with vt(9) in a jail. The above new release states that the new >>> xorg will soon have a pkgng version. >> For hardware access reasons, I believe it is not possible to run X in a >> jail currently. > > This is true, although there is a patch to allow it: > > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/PATCH-Xorg-in-a-jail-td5892813.html > > (The patch from Alexander's email, not mine) > > Cheers > > Tom > I know about this patch. I gave it to the guy who maintains jail(8) to be added as allow_xorg back in 9.1. After a year long review it was rejected by the core security team as it completely breaks jail security. xorg uses the kernel to communicate with the hosts console. From that news release, sounded like the new xorg uses a different method to communicate with the hosts console. Is my understanding correct? Now using vt(9) with the new xorg may be the answer to running xorg in a jail. Is there any way to get vt installed on 10.0-RELEASE with out going to current?