From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 28 12:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D95437B401 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.online.ie (mail.online.ie [213.159.130.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6E343FA3 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from relyod@cooperationireland.org) Received: from liffey.cooperationireland.org (unknown [217.67.143.158]) by mail.online.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903AB060; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from IT3.cooperationireland.org (it3 [199.107.2.144]) h2SKANCi032091; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:23 GMT (envelope-from relyod@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328200211.0264ba78@199.107.2.1> X-Sender: relyod@199.107.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:22 +0000 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Mike Doyle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: steve@itx.ie Subject: I just love FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:59 -0000 Horror-story time I want to change ISP, from an isp where all the techies are not even in the same country as my co-lo facility, to a nice new ISP with knowledgeable techie support staff here in the same City that I'm in, one that offers dedicated servers for half the cost of the old ISP co-location facility. There is one ISP that seemed to fit the bill, and they even promised to set FreeBSD up on a new server for me. They couldn't. (Their techie is a linux-guru but failed to get FreeBSD running on the box. I don't know why) He installed RedHat 7.3. Binary packages only. Four days later, and I still can't get anything to install from sources. I didn't like RedHat three years ago when I first looked at it, and I absolutely HATE it now. While I admit that a certain amount of the problems I'm having this week stem simply from unfamiliarity with the specific assumptions that the RedHat people make, and assumptions that the ISP made in installing a binary only version, I am more and more impressed with how cleanly everything under FreeBSD works on hardware that it runs on. Anyway, enough venting. Suffice to say this experience has made me even more of a fan of our favourite OS that I was before. Is there any kind soul on the list who knows enough about FreeBSD, and enough about RedHat, that if I send them the DMESG output from the RedHat box, could tell me if it's possible to get FreeBSD to run on it? It may well need a custom kernel, as there were (so I'm told) problems getting FreeBSD 4.7 and/or FreeBSD 4.8RC to install. I'm under time pressure here - in that the old ISP is going to send me an invoice on Monday, and I'd like to be able to say "NO" rather than paying TWO ISPs at the same time for four months! (i.e. 1 full quarter) <>< ============================================================= ><> Michael Doyle email: relyod@cooperationireland.org Network Administrator personal email: relyod@indigo.ie Co-operation Ireland http://www.cooperationireland.org/ Phone: +353-1-661 0588 Fax: +353-1-661 8456 *********************************************************************