From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 2 16:07:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08121 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-4-67.mu.de.ibm.net [139.92.4.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08115; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA13237; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 01:57:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199704022357.BAA13237@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: current@freebsd.org cc: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au Subject: Let's stop breaking current for a couple of weeks. From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: jhs@freebsd.org, Fallback: jhs@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: Phone +49.89.268616, Fax +49.89.2608126, Data +49.89.26023276 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Apr 1997 07:10:03 +1000." <199704022110.HAA00750@mailbox.uq.edu.au> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 01:57:15 +0200 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject was: Re: ufs lock panic in -current Hi, Reference: > From: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au > > [The great FS patch saga deleted] > > Dammit, just get the blasted thing in current, where we'll beat the bugs out > of them. If you do this, I guarantee that Terry's email bill will drop by 50% - > 8^) 8^). Besides, I want to see what all this transitive closure stuff looks > like. > > Stephen _NO_ Thanks ! Have you heard the Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times" ? We don't need _more_ interesting new bugs in current this week or next. Like numerous others I dumped current & dropped back to a Release because I couldn't stand the recently constantly volatile broken current. Lite2 needs to go in, but as we've seen people asking other folks to sync other diffs to current, & getting the response ~"No. current is too volatile just now, wait till it calms down"~ ..... It's time to try for intervening periods of relative calm on current, between assualts by broken/untested/incomplete code; for if current becomes continuous broken hell, it'll deter other contributions. There've been a few "I survived a make world" claims lately .. but not many in a long time. Current needs to be less unstable for a while, so refugees can return to it from their Release temporary havens. If some people just want to view or publish odd bits of code in progress, web space does that, (EG I keep my add-ons & diffs in http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/src/src.html & maintain that copy with rdist, & applicability to src/ with a shell, & bits don't get offered for a commit until they're matured & proven benign :-) Please, Let's NOT _deliberately commit more broken or untested code, unless the stuff is #ifdefed out, (or kernel optioned), or not linked in by default, so it doesn't wreck the current operating base & deter other people working in other unrelated current areas ! Thanks ! Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/