From owner-cvs-all Fri Feb 21 7:21:50 2003 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309D237B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.nectar.cc (gw.nectar.cc [208.42.49.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F48743FBF; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:21:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@celabo.org) Received: from madman.celabo.org (madman.celabo.org [10.0.1.111]) by gw.nectar.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id D369155; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:21:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by madman.celabo.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C8D0B78C3E; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:20:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:20:37 -0600 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Paul Richards Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , "M. Warner Losh" , ru@FreeBSD.org, cjc@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet in_pcb.c Message-ID: <20030221152037.GB34474@madman.celabo.org> References: <200302210528.h1L5SS0H092948@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030221131205.GE30966@sunbay.com> <20030221.062059.34122968.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030221135056.GA32007@madman.celabo.org> <20030221143149.GF68768@survey.codeburst.net> <20030221151709.GH68768@survey.codeburst.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030221151709.GH68768@survey.codeburst.net> X-Url: http://www.celabo.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i-ja.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 03:17:09PM +0000, Paul Richards wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 03:42:42PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Paul Richards writes: > > > I think some features should be labelled as "experimental". This is a > > > change that may have some benefit but may also be one that we wish > > > hadn't happened and therefore it should be clear that this is a feature > > > that's been implemented "to see how it goes" when deployed more widely. > > > > It is not a change. It is a new configuration knob which, if left > > alone, changes absolutely nothing. > > Yes, but if a lot of people start changing this setting and FreeBSD gets > a reputation for being insecure then we may wish we hadn't provided the > knob. I don't think that is a realistic risk. People can chmod a+rw files also. This isn't all that different. I'm fine with the change. When it is documented, the danger of using the knobs should also be documented (as it is in the comments cjc added). Give our users some credit. Cheers, -- Jacques A. Vidrine http://www.celabo.org/ NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal Kerberos jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@FreeBSD.org . nectar@kth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message