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Date:      Sun, 24 Apr 2005 06:40:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:      David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
To:        FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   www/80301: Remove references to (defunct) freebsd-newbies list
Message-ID:  <200504241340.j3ODeTjj065760@bunrab.catwhisker.org>
Resent-Message-ID: <200504241350.j3ODoIPi070273@freefall.freebsd.org>

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>Number:         80301
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Remove references to (defunct) freebsd-newbies list
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Apr 24 13:50:18 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     David Wolfskill
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Wolfskill & Dowling Residence
>Environment:
FreeBSD g1-18.catwhisker.org. 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #493: Sat Apr 23 07:42:59 PDT 2005     root@g1-18.catwhisker.org.:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W  i386

Actually, the above is irrelevant.

>Description:
	The page at
	<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL>;
	refers the reader to the freebsd-newbies mailing list.  A
	couple of weeks ago, core@ sent word to postmaster@freebsd.org
	(that would be me) informing me that core@ had decided that
	the list was no longer to be used.

	Accordingly, no messages have been sent to it for the last
	2 weeks, and I have rejected all requests to subscribe to
	it in that time (directing folks to use the freebsd-questions
	list instead, of course).

	I think the time has come to update the Web page to remove
	the "attractive nuisance."

>How-To-Repeat:
	Direct a Web browser of choice to
	<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL>;
	and look for information about available mailing lists at
	FreeBSD.org; in particular, note that freebsd-newbies is
	listed.  Given the above-cited decision and treatment of
	the list, this should not be the case.

>Fix:

	Here you go.  I didn't check anywhere other than en_US.ISO8859-1,
	though:


Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.166
diff -u -r1.166 chapter.sgml
--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml	24 Mar 2005 11:56:40 -0000	1.166
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml	24 Apr 2005 13:28:29 -0000
@@ -127,11 +127,6 @@
 	    </row>
 
 	    <row>
-	      <entry>&a.newbies.name;</entry>
-	      <entry>New FreeBSD users activities and discussions</entry>
-	    </row>
-
-	    <row>
 	      <entry>&a.policy.name;</entry>
 	      <entry>FreeBSD Core team policy decisions.  Low volume, and
 		read-only</entry>
@@ -1101,25 +1096,6 @@
 	</varlistentry>
 
 	<varlistentry>
-	  <term>&a.newbies.name;</term>
-
-	  <listitem>
-	    <para><emphasis>Newbies activities discussion</emphasis></para>
-
-	    <para>We cover any of the activities of newbies that are not
-	      already dealt with elsewhere, including: independent learning
-	      and problem solving techniques, finding and using resources and
-	      asking for help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which
-	      lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing
-	      ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an
-	      active part in the FreeBSD community.  We take our problems and
-	      support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies
-	      to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as
-	      newbies.</para>
-	  </listitem>
-	</varlistentry>
-
-	<varlistentry>
 	  <term>&a.openoffice.name;</term>
 
 	  <listitem>


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