From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 13:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0E416A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED96C43D62 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3ODoI0x070274 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3ODoIPi070273; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200504241350.j3ODoIPi070273@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, David Wolfskill Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F4D16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:40:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B723C43D66 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:40:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3ODeTb2065761 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 06:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3ODeTjj065760; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 06:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Message-Id: <200504241340.j3ODeTjj065760@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 06:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: www/80301: Remove references to (defunct) freebsd-newbies list X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Wolfskill List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:19 -0000 >Number: 80301 >Category: www >Synopsis: Remove references to (defunct) freebsd-newbies list >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 24 13:50:18 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Wolfskill >Release: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE i386 >Organization: Wolfskill & Dowling Residence >Environment: FreeBSD g1-18.catwhisker.org. 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #493: Sat Apr 23 07:42:59 PDT 2005 root@g1-18.catwhisker.org.:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 Actually, the above is irrelevant. >Description: The page at refers the reader to the freebsd-newbies mailing list. A couple of weeks ago, core@ sent word to postmaster@freebsd.org (that would be me) informing me that core@ had decided that the list was no longer to be used. Accordingly, no messages have been sent to it for the last 2 weeks, and I have rejected all requests to subscribe to it in that time (directing folks to use the freebsd-questions list instead, of course). I think the time has come to update the Web page to remove the "attractive nuisance." >How-To-Repeat: Direct a Web browser of choice to and look for information about available mailing lists at FreeBSD.org; in particular, note that freebsd-newbies is listed. Given the above-cited decision and treatment of the list, this should not be the case. >Fix: Here you go. I didn't check anywhere other than en_US.ISO8859-1, though: Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.166 diff -u -r1.166 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml 24 Mar 2005 11:56:40 -0000 1.166 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml 24 Apr 2005 13:28:29 -0000 @@ -127,11 +127,6 @@ - &a.newbies.name; - New FreeBSD users activities and discussions - - - &a.policy.name; FreeBSD Core team policy decisions. Low volume, and read-only @@ -1101,25 +1096,6 @@ - &a.newbies.name; - - - Newbies activities discussion - - We cover any of the activities of newbies that are not - already dealt with elsewhere, including: independent learning - and problem solving techniques, finding and using resources and - asking for help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which - lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing - ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an - active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and - support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies - to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as - newbies. - - - - &a.openoffice.name; >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: