Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 02:37:38 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: Kirk McKusick <mckusick@McKusick.COM> Cc: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kirk's soft-update integration.. Message-ID: <199802041037.CAA00427@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 04 Feb 1998 02:03:37 PST." <199802041003.CAA09861@flamingo.McKusick.COM>
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Cool, so whats next for hackers like me to get hold of the code 8) Many Tnks! Amancio > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:08:38 -0800 > From: Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com> > Organization: Whistle Communications > To: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net> > CC: hackers@freebsd.org, mckusick@mckusick.com > Subject: Re: kirk's soft-update integration.. > > Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > How is this a "poison pill"? > > > > I don't see the problem - FreeBSD, which is what this would go into, is > > already available in source and object form at no cost or for the > > reasonable distribution cost (if you buy a CDROM). > > > > > > Julian Elischer replied: > > > > the problem is not for freebsd, but ISPs and such who may be > > tempted to use it to put on systems they place at custommer's > > premises. > > > > Whistle has a license, but the GENERIC system as distributed > > probably couldn't have it compiled in. > > > > I myself am not to clear on the terms.. maybe kirk (who is > > CC'd) can give a non-binding "This is what I mean" interpretation > > for us? It's to whistle's advantage to integrate these changes > > back some time this year, but it's up to each commercial user > > to negotiate with Kirk I guess. > > My intent is that the typical FreeBSD user that gets source > be able to use my code. This should cover most of the FreeBSD > users. However, companies like Whistle that want to bundle > FreeBSD with a product for which they do not distribute source > code have to work out a license agreement with me. The goal > here is to get commercial companies like Whistle, BSDI, and > Sun to work out a licensing agreement with me while at the > same time allowing me to let the individual non-commercial > users use the code without having to license it. This licensing > is being driven by the fact that I am a self-employed person > who needs to generate a living. While I would love to give > all of my code away as I did for years at UC Berkeley, that > is no longer possible. > > Kirk McKusick >
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