Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:20:25 -0700 From: Pedro Giffuni <pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> To: jbryant@tfs.net Cc: dennis <dennis@etinc.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commercial vendors registry Message-ID: <3351E8C9.5DD2@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> References: <199704140313.WAA07958@argus>
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Jim Bryant wrote: > > > [retreiveing two cents from pocket and tossing it into the hat] > > This is exactly the kind of bs discussion that has kept US from going > out and getting commercial support for FreeBSD... > > Case in point... Lin[s]ux... Ten-Twenty different versions, bad > networking, even worse VM... Vendors love it!! Why? Hmmmm... > I was discussing a similar issue the other day with Richard Stallman (he also asked me to say GNU-Linux when referring to Linux). I was commenting how Caldera is killing Linux by effectively closing it's development: you cannot ftp Caldera's OpenLinux and most of the commercial applications want to have an OpenLinux license. We both agreed that if people don't support free software we will be left with the same situation UNIX has suffered: a big number of incompatible versions with fixes from different vendors. All-in-all Linux´s license was specifically designed to avoid this situation. Our license is much more attractive for commercial vendors, and strangely we don't have that problem. I believe Linux acceptance was a matter of timing. In those days ATT wanted to own an OS that the public needed. The only winners after the legal suit were Microsoft and in a lesser scale Linux. Some vendors say they prefer Linux because there is bigger support on the net and there are more books on Linux...Well I don't feel like baby-sitting anyway. I like the things how they are now, after all....one small group of committers can work in a more organized way, without the pressure of bazillion "Microsofted" users that think an OS depends only on it's GUI. Everything seems to show that we can emulate Linux better than Caldera does and that knowledgeable people will turn to FreeBSD when the time comes. In the end, Linux is a toyland where hackers can explore possibilities that will feed FreeBSD sooner or later. One thing I have clear, though, is that if commercial vendors of FreeBSD products win we also win, so ...the idea of a commercial vendors registry is good (and we also need to control them somehow :-)). Let's leave the discusion of FreeBSD's development vs. amount of commercial followers closed...OK? > > I have ran FreeBSD since 1.1.5.1, and still say it is the best > available on PC's... Yes it is work in progress... The only > program/operating system that is not work in progress is the one that > just got degaussed... > When I first knew FreeBSD (2.0.5) it was considered a networking box. If you wanted something for human use, Linux was a more recommendable option. This gap has closed significantly due to the excellent ports collection and the strong CD distribution. The only thing that speaks bad of us is that Linux became multiplatform first, when we had an excellent example to follow ! Pedro. > I sure as h*ll don't hear no fat lady singing the demise of FreeBSD... > > > Jim > -- > All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, > think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or > radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" > jbryant@tfs.net - KC5VDJ 2-meter, 70cm - KPC-3 Plus packet capable
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