From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 21:47:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545FA106564A for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41A48FC15 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so2675357eyf.13 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:47:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UjGmk1ivU/kxptZuzM5lik6XrwWYgcPE6Kl2W0wot+k=; b=RIzo2akj1JYMnguUhNlmkv+N05e+JeKj/mH2/n9crsQi6Ci20K7fJxCfA65IMMtYpU BBFsNusEcwH1EaItLy6vPOMvaU3M+greU5Quafteza6/G2G8mKB+n7R6Cx2PlGNafPX/ c5u4+WDfWJ/0ZDJLAKs3LAiY5jHW9CejGkxTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bOpB51bGYBsQirSBustoAJ6GB8L9cotcedxOm/Z727Pk9BKicuTANizNPKIWM9J/Qg WoC3rj89D+ruUTehHuE6xj0zin5oZqLmzKEuK9coZ+fDhBCYIdBVoeDULHb4qfJ0Dd3G TeSWe0YWT83sL95wc6D8/jutlT0N4v4YTEP00= Received: by 10.213.27.209 with SMTP id j17mr4535326ebc.56.1297720034968; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.177.27.172] ([212.183.128.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t5sm2885126eeh.8.2011.02.14.13.47.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:47:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: elbbit Message-ID: <4D59A2DF.2070604@tibble.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:47:11 +0000 From: Simon Tibble User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101226 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110214195811.E88C4106566C@hub.freebsd.org> <4D5996A3.4040602@tibble.net> <20110214211258.GA11557@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20110214211258.GA11557@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Invitation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:47:17 -0000 On 14/02/11 21:12, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 08:54:59PM +0000, Simon Tibble wrote: >> >> Now, see, I can't help thinking that if we all just abandoned money >> then the motivation for people to do this sort of thing would then >> disappear - would it not? > > Without money, how would we keep score to know who is winning? > By measuring ones contribution. This can be quantified by creating a system whereby one's output is measured. It is not a credit system, rather a combination of reputation (feedback of others) and how much produce or time you effect. Try to think ebay without the money, and instead of leaving feedback after every transaction you only leave the feedback just once (how do you feel about the other person? good/bad). Also, in this contribution based system you can change your mind about the other party at any time, whether you are still in a relationship or not. And, instead of having "listings" which get replaced they get renewed with updated quantities, so, you see, you could list TIME or PRODUCT and as you make more available you update your contribution system. I am looking to recruit developers for such an idea, and I have a partial prototype of a new discussion-decision-resolution website system partially created at tibble.net (it's not even prototype worthy yet, but it's getting there). Specificially, I suggest you read the IDEA page which explains more about my radical (and not new but only slightly different) way of organising ourselves as a race. Quantifiable without currency through better organisation. Lose the belief in the money system and the Queen of England will no longer control you from the capital of the whole financial institution which is London. (On a side note, Washington is the centre for military control and I think you know where the spiritual center is in the east). But don't mind me. I'm a crazy man with random mumbles. -- Simon Tibble simon@tibble.net