From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jul 15 2:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45AC37B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 02:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6F9de809588; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 02:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mit Rowe" , Subject: RE: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 02:39:39 -0700 Message-ID: <003b01c10d12$117f1c80$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't waste your time. Chili!soft is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sun Microsystems. It serves Sun's purposes to have a Linux port of Chilisoft because Linux is not currently and probably will never be stable and scalable enough to run on the really large sites. This means that ISP's that go down the Chili-on-Linux route if they keep getting bigger will eventually have to migrate to Solaris for the stability. FreeBSD on the other hand is stable enough to be used on the really large sites. If Sun releases ASP for FreeBSD using Chilisoft then ISP's that go the Chili-on-FreeBSD route will never have incentive to "upgrade" to Solaris. It would probably also be instructive to examine the Sun annual report and the SEC filings to see if revenue from Chili is broken out. (I would think that it would have to be since they are a subsidiary) I would guess that if you did that you would find that Chili!Soft isn't profitable for Sun. As a result, they probably aren't that interested in expanding it into new markets. A look at the job postings on Chili's website seems to confirm this - there's no postings for technical or programmer types, this indicates that their just in maintainence mode on the software. In fact all they are looking for is a marketing person - so what you have here is a company that's currently only interested in expanding marketing, not technical development. That's a fairly good indicator that they are attempting to build sales on the existing product line and are not at the current time interested in expanding into new markets. If I were you I'd excuse the unstability crack on the Chilisoft support forum. The person that made that remark is just a support tech, they are not the people in that company who determines what platforms that the Chili software supports. What is most likely is that they threw that out because they want all the BSD people to go away and quit bothering them because they have probably been told by their bosses to focus on supporting the existing markets - ie: Linux and Solaris - and not to spend time responding to people who they can't sell anything to. Don't take it personally it's just business. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mit Rowe >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:43 PM >To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: > > >http://www.chilisoft.com/forum/getthread.asp?searchmydate=All&recordnumber=1 >5605&curID=15605&mydate=30&threadnumber=6810&threadname=Chili%21Soft+General >+Support&threadtopic=ASP+and+FreeBSD&search=yes > > > > >"ASP and FreeBSD ChiliSoft Tech 04/19/01 > >At this time FreeBSD is just too unstable for ChiliSoft to support. We are >still investigating a release for FreeBSD, but everything is preliminary at >this point. I don't see FreeBSD support happening in the near future. Well, >not until a stable version is released. > >-ChiliSoft Tech" > >I consider this a challenge. How about you? > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message