From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 15:48:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D6A3BD76A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BNVC13px9z4Z3C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 80DDA3BD93E; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A253BD769 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: from aurora.gregv.net (aurora.gregv.net [192.111.144.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BNVBz1tmbz4YkM; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gregv.net) Received: by aurora.gregv.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD41370; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:48:34 -0400 From: Greg Veldman To: Michael Gmelin Cc: Steve Wills , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap Message-ID: <20200807154834.GP67461@aurora.gregv.net> References: <67fabbf4-0fc3-49da-8354-2e20486d4751@FreeBSD.org> <11C38184-E6D4-4F04-9A38-8EFEA10402B0@grem.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11C38184-E6D4-4F04-9A38-8EFEA10402B0@grem.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BNVBz1tmbz4YkM X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@gregv.net has no SPF policy when checking 192.111.144.138) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@gregv.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.87 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.18)[-0.180]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gregv.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.08)[-0.081]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.23)[0.234]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31863, ipnet:192.111.144.0/20, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 15:48:45 -0000 On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:43:38PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: > The real question is: Will we design things in a way that we expect ports tree users to always install git and its dependencies on their system or not (long term)? > > For developers it???s a no-brainer (obviously yes), but ports tree users aren???t developers. Or alternatively, will there be a git/gitlite or similar utility included in base that can be used to bootstrap one's ports tree? -- Greg Veldman freebsd@gregv.net