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Date:      Thu, 17 Sep 2020 07:04:41 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system?
Message-ID:  <202009171404.08HE4fZj007939@slippy.cwsent.com>
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In message <CAPyFy2BHki84KuzP94AqTLk7v9FTAnLP-sa4HaFLq0kdxt0dEQ@mail.gmail.c
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, Ed Maste writes:
> FTP is (becoming?) a legacy protocol, and I think it may be time to
> remove the ftp server from the FreeBSD base system - with the recent
> security advisory for ftpd serving as a reminder.
>
> I've proposed adding a deprecation notice to the man page in
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447 to start this off. There are a
> number of ftp servers in ports, and if we're going to remove the base
> system one we can create a port for it first, as well.
>
> Any comments or concerns, please follow up in the code review or in email her
> e.

We should also deprecate the FTP client.

I've been advocating removing FTP (and HTTP) from libfetch as well. People 
should be using HTTPS only. (libfetch could support a plugin that might be 
supplied by a port should someone be inclined to write one.)

FTP is firewall unfriendly.

The F5 gateway at $JOB does not support FTP. When we still worked at the 
office I had to take my $JOB laptop to the coffee shop to use their 
wireless to download patches from Broadcom's FTP site. Now that I WFH (we 
won't ever go back to the office) I download while disconnected from the 
VPN.

Then move the removed bits to ports, which I think we already have in tnftp 
and tnftpd.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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