From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 20 19:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9F16A474; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (arm132.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.17.198.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8F743D46; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9351D51388; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:39:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dlc33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.32.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C8451307; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:36:30 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060620193630.GA8007@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20060619131101.GD1130@garage.freebsd.pl> <44984A91.8040805@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44984A91.8040805@rogers.com> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Journaling UFS with gjournal. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:39:14 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:20:49PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: +> Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: +> >Copying one large file: +> >UFS: 8s +> >UFS+SU: 8s +> >gjournal(1): 16s +> >gjournal(2): 14s +> > +> >Copying eight large files in parallel: +> >UFS: 120s +> >UFS+SU: 120s +> >gjournal(1): 184s +> >gjournal(2): 165s +> > +> >Untaring eight src.tgz in parallel: +> >UFS: 791s +> >UFS+SU: 650s +> >gjournal(1): 333s +> >gjournal(2): 309s +> > +> >Reading. grep -r on two src/ directories in parallel: +> >UFS: 84s +> >UFS+SU: 138s +> >gjournal(1): 102s +> >gjournal(2): 89s +> > =20 +>=20 +> Not to sound ungrateful for the work, which i am, this is great! But the= performance impact seems rather large to me. Does the presence of journali= ng mean that we could=20 +> perhaps mount the filesystems async? Does it eliminate the need for soft= updates? The performance impact is big for large files, because in theory we have to write the data twice. Yes, it eliminates need for SU, but there are reasons, that you still want to use SU, eg. for snapshots. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEmE4+ForvXbEpPzQRAjSQAJ0e6afsrswjGwoJhPut8ECFSwWpwwCgp+gl dEU8PUrMPRznRZEOSYn1v5g= =NVNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW--