From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Mar 9 17:41:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301E126892C for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f176.google.com (mail-il1-f176.google.com [209.85.166.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48blrF5h0dz4TPP for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f176.google.com with SMTP id p1so5462360ils.12 for ; Mon, 09 Mar 2020 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oTjWhh8enD9+tDLiE3QpXiO5l5U7hnAcF/GfD7sbCxk=; b=Zhs58kojN5czeYF7hJpRRM0JAcI7T6KCHBbJ9FidDD7XBvs+7YTwQLamTdxSzn14Je i8shNzXhbGaA8osyrF4gtor0RbVCYhqtssttCrS6b/NHx8DorT55MzDgCzplNRC9/Y0n O7SCFhGOBZ3kcCORaxnHmj8I9DNtQtrS39SBpabdujyBtveSxPtzFMOa9l4HFx4VUlnA FoPqffzaJ4d+wQT4+Tboup08E18YWAeoTuXUkPv0MwmXMYy0hah35HhYpq0U/HAIVDOe 2+IAwifxfm9vaCfhBd6v6JwgrJqu5gvMSGTAw5Q1zdig9rRUPSxmZ9C5/nAjWsKJT2Q9 7E8A== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3QIaL+jHH5C25SNTLIjOOAeQI7kVWdEawq7Dfis8Gv7G9i8CDe ygwhsmzpBVLU+fwTmeml0OEpDAh3d+6VKjgt6UammCTn X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtvVJS9m+/Op5Par9e1bcA9oFlD3ORyVwER/0jJiPQh04S1wYaAapwJR9tD3snmMjCpf7rJGz7J+GIcDdxcht8= X-Received: by 2002:a92:41c7:: with SMTP id o190mr6121232ila.11.1583775659815; Mon, 09 Mar 2020 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:40:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any sync-serial driver users (ce/cp/ctau/cx)? To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48blrF5h0dz4TPP X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; IP_SCORE(-1.98)[ip: (-5.21), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-2.98), asn: 15169(-1.65), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[176.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[176.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 17:41:03 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 14:03, Ed Maste wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 15:57, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > Given the ~15 years of nothing but API changes to these cards, and the lack of testing of those changes, and the large technology transitions in net and tty layers of the system, I'd honestly be surprised if these drivers still work. > > Deprecation notices in review D23928 https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23928. > > As rgrimes points out cx(4) is for an ISA card (Cronyx Sigma family), > and I assume there's no conflict over removing it. Likewise with ctau, > which is also ISA, discontinued by the manufacturer and not supported > in FreeBSD 7+ by them. I've MFC'd the deprecation notices for cx and ctau and will remove them from HEAD before too long. glebius@ is going to follow up with Cronyx for more details about the cards supported by ce and cp. I would still appreciate any report that these drivers have been used / tested on contemporary FreeBSD.