From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 18:43:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EA337BBF1 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07913; Sat, 13 May 2000 19:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000513193601.0406a500@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:42:59 -0600 To: Anatoly Vorobey From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? Cc: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000514042602.A19316@happy.checkpoint.com> References: <4.3.1.2.20000513191658.0451dbb0@localhost> <4.3.1.2.20000513104752.0447aa50@localhost> <4.3.1.2.20000513100518.0444c390@localhost> <391D4DAD.FD80980A@picusnet.com> <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <4.3.1.2.20000513100518.0444c390@localhost> <20000513215350.A6803@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <4.3.1.2.20000513104752.0447aa50@localhost> <20000514012024.A16224@happy.checkpoint.com> <4.3.1.2.20000513191658.0451dbb0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:26 PM 5/13/2000, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > > Sorry, but this is one point which is indisputable. Stallman himself > > has said REPEATEDLY, in person and in print, that this is a goal > > of the GPL. > >Then maybe you can cite something. Easily. (You must be unfamiliar with the writings or speeches of Richard Stallman if you canot cite examples yourself.) In "The GNU Manifesto" (interesting that he'd choose that name), at http://www.fsf.org/gnu/manifesto.html, Stallman writes: >For more than ten years, many of the world's best programmers worked at the Artificial Intelligence Lab for far less money than they could have had anywhere else. They got many kinds of non-monetary rewards: fame and appreciation, for example. And creativity is also fun, a reward in itself. > >Then most of them left when offered a chance to do the same interesting work for a lot of money. > >What the facts show is that people will program for reasons other than riches; but if given a chance to make a lot of money as well, they will come to expect and demand it. Low-paying organizations do poorly in competition with high-paying ones, but they do not have to do badly if the high-paying ones are banned. Which is what Stallman advocates: banning commercial software and commercial software companies. The stated purpose of the GPL is to destroy all programming jobs which pay better than what is earned by a starving graduate student or researcher. > > Perhaps you don't know Stallman's history. > >Perhaps I do, but am not blinded by hatred. It is Stallman, alas, who is blinded by hatred. Unfortunately, many of the people who stamp the GPL on their code do so because Stallman has deceived them into believing his aims are noble, when in fact he is enlisting them in a personal vendetta. --Brett Glass "I am, uh, BillGatus of Borg. Competition is futile. You will be integrated." --Brett Glass (After Jack Rickard) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message