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Date:      Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:49:18 +0200
From:      Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Matt Olander <matt@ixsystems.com>, MarkLinimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Subject:   Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?
Message-ID:  <176F689D-1888-4B71-B03E-70108F464E29@my.gd>
In-Reply-To: <201206131327.19688.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206111537310.19012@kozubik.com> <201206130853.32687.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAJ-Vmo=xPcMYo_eXAHOkVraHTZKfbExPLsrkZbGRDqhHHaKYuA@mail.gmail.com> <201206131327.19688.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On 13 Jun 2012, at 19:27, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52:28 am Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> On 13 June 2012 05:53, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>>> You don't need to change the FreeBSD culture. We'd love to do an 8.4
>>>> release. And an 8.5 release, and 8.6 release, etc. The problem is one
>>>> of resources and time, not of culture/desire.
>>>=20
>>> I disagree.  The pace of X.0 releases is a deliberate choice FreeBSD
>>> has made and directly impacts the number of "live" branches in existence=
.
>>> Given our developer base, we can't really support 3 branches concurrentl=
y
>>> (head + 2 stable like we have now with head, 9, and 8).  Having longer l=
ived
>>> stable branches requires either increasing resources to support exising
>>> releases longer, or slowing the pace of X.0 releases (but more aggressiv=
ely
>>> merging things from HEAD back).  The latter case, especially, is part of=

>>> the culture and would be a choice we as a Project would have to make.
>>=20
>> Right, but I don't think the freebsd project would really mind or
>> change much if more people came on board to handle legacy releases and
>> support them.
>>=20
>> If you're a company that uses FreeBSD stable releases, please consider
>> contributing engineering resources and/or donations to the Foundation
>> to improve the support of said stable releases. :)
>=20
> No, that doesn't actually work.  Having additional support on a stable
> branch requires someone able to 1) commit changes to stable branches and
> 2) be able to cut newer releases from said branches (i.e. doing the work
> of re@).  You cannot get that as an outside entity.  It requires buy-in
> from the Project itself.
>=20

Jumping in.

I for one, as a fbsd admin on corporate servers ( read not commiter), would d=
early like less releases but a more aggressive MFC approach.




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