Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:14:41 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG>, Rod Taylor <dark@idiotswitch.org>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Good memes vs. good code Message-ID: <7214.936854081@localhost> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:37:37 MDT." <4.2.0.58.19990908195708.0463db80@localhost>
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> The people who have argued with me the longest and the loudest on > this list have been those who are very code-centric. For example, > Jordan Hubbard wrote, in a recent message: > > >All this talk of dominant memes and subverting the > >current paradigm is mere fiddle-faddle when it comes right down to it > >becuase it's the front-liners who do the work and the front liners who > >I respect. > > By "front liners," of course, he means the coders. But the development BZZZZT. Nice guess, Brett, and thanks for playing! But you got it completely wrong, of course, because I was talking about the front line ADVOCATES. The people actually writing articles, showing up at trade-shows, investing their own money, if necessary, to give away FreeBSD pens and buttons at Linux groups and try and talk about how wonderful FreeBSD is. THAT is a front-line evangelist and the mark of a successful one is that he or she doesn't spend their time sitting around posting long-winded screeds about how the project managers are doing everything wrong, they're out there actually pounding pavement and doing very tangible, measurable things. I said it before and I'll say it again: The last mainstream article we saw from you was in Smart Reseller, a long time ago now. I also see you at trade shows now and then, but all you seem to do there is take the opportunity to fire your guns at us, you're not one of the other folks who line up in the morning and ask for flyers and stuff to take around to the other vendors and generally Be Helpful. I don't see you doing any number of other things I see the front-liners doing and I'm talking about YOUR supposed area of specialty, advocacy, and not coding. Don't try and wriggle out of this one on the pretext that I'm not pointing out any of the shortcomings you have which matter. I'm talking very *specifically* about your lack of contribution to this area. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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