From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 14 22:22:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5119F106566B for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f229.google.com (mail-yw0-f229.google.com [209.85.211.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B5F8FC0A for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh18 with SMTP id 18so2685811ywh.3 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:22:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090915001426.2b49e1ca.freebsd@edvax.de> Received: by 10.216.85.201 with SMTP id u51mr47889wee.13.1252966965195; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0016e6d7ea64e03c380473911a95@google.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:22:45 +0000 From: utisoft@googlemail.com To: Polytropon , utisoft@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Richard Mahlerwein Subject: Re: Re: Dump/Restore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:22:47 -0000 On 14 Sep 2009 23:14, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:02:49 +0000, utisoft@googlemail.com wrote: > > Yeah, unfortunately I still think of 'folders', and am continually > > wrong-footed by the term 'directory' in a graphical environment, even > after > > years of GNU and FreeBSD use..... > Just imagine if the Xerox Alto and its first GUI wouldn't have > been invented in the US, but in Germany. Then we would refer > to "ring binders" or "lever arch folders", or "ordners" or > "actenordner" (the german word is "der Ordner" or "der Akten- > ordner"). Surely, this would be the default symbol: > http://www.officexl.de/kopierpapier/images/ordner.jpg > And all paper sizes defaults would refer to DIN A4 in the first > place... what a beautiful imagination! :-) > > I have all sorts of strange habits that many will recognise as symptoms > of > > multi-booting and running servers. There's no shame in that! > Please don't get me wrong: There are correct places to use the > term "folder", eg when talking about "mail folders" (which can > be represented as files (mbox) or directories with files (MH) on > the disk level). But in the case discussed, "directory" is the > correct term. There's no need to change proven terminology just > because some company indoctrinates you to do so. :-) > How important it is to use the correct terminology is when users > start asking you questions about their "modems" (refers to PC), > their "TV" and their "brains" (refers to speakers), or start > complaining that "the file system is too big" (refers to the > icon size in the file manager used), and want "the same pictures > at home as I have them at work" (refers to the OS). > To sum it up in quite your own words: "I have all sorts of strange > habits that many will recognise as symptoms of asperger's syndrome. > There's no shame in that!" :-) Certainly no shame in that, but also one should be corrected on errors of terminology. Sorry if I didn't make that clear (I didn't!). I merely meant to point out that the best of us make terminological errors, and that it's all part of our 'diversity'. However, you were still right to correct the term IMO. Chris