From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 7 23:02:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA09994 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA09989 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18293; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199709080556.XAA18293@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: brian@awfulhak.org (Brian Somers), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don Croyle: make world failing at ppp install (again) In-Reply-To: <199709071827.LAA15739@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199709071250.NAA21742@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> <199709071827.LAA15739@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Running ppp does _NOT_ *requires* write access to the routing table, > this is much much much better handled by properly configuring > a real routing daemon and running real routing protocols. Bzzt, thanks for playing, but for 99.9999999% of the folks who run a PPP connection, a 'real routing daemon' is way overkill and will cause them no-end of headaches. > Infact I have to go to great pains to _stop_ what ppp tries to do to > the routing tables, gated handles it MUCH better! Gated handles nothing better unless you've got a spare 40 hours to dedicate to figuring out how it works. Gated is only necessary if you've got multiple 'routes', and most (see above) folks have a single network connection which is their PPP link. Engineering is finding the best solution for most folks, optimizing it for it while trying to not penalize the rest of the folks. What ijppp does is take the engineering approach, and not find the 'best/most complicated/gated' solution. Nate