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From: Jona Joachim <jaj@hcl-club.lu>
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Cc: "Blake Finley, MA, ABD-2" <blakefinley@transpacific.net>,
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:10:27 -0700
Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Bill Moran wrote:
> > OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and
> > motivating factors than any other OS I know.
> 
> I disagree.  I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly
> the same place -- at the top of the list.

Sorry but I have to disagree here.
FreeBSD ships with closed source software including following drivers:
ath, nve, oltr, rr232x, hptmv.
Closed source software implies potential insecurity. If security is at
the top of the list then I see a clear contradiction here.

Jona

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