From owner-freebsd-java Thu Feb 6 6:57:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6544937B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [193.124.215.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0246F43F3F for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:57:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from drweb by mail.nsu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18gnSz-0000Ab-00; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 20:57:29 +0600 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru ([193.124.215.97] ident=root) by mail.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18gnSy-0000AP-00; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 20:57:28 +0600 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h16EvIRV031703; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:57:18 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: (from fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h16EvGWO031700; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:57:16 +0600 (NS) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:57:16 +0600 From: Max Khon To: Rasputin Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation) Message-ID: <20030206205716.A30498@iclub.nsu.ru> References: <20030206021823.GB4193@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030206040515.GA4682@gnuppy.monkey.org> <994960000.1044505320@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> <20030206044625.GA4877@gnuppy.monkey.org> <1037650000.1044509319@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> <20030206074100.GB5538@gnuppy.monkey.org> <3E4214A8.6080404@btc.adaptec.com> <20030206123450.GB10718@idoru.tenten> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030206123450.GB10718@idoru.tenten>; from rasputin@idoru.mine.nu on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:34:50PM +0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 X-Envelope-To: rasputin@idoru.mine.nu, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:34:50PM +0000, Rasputin wrote: > > Why are your feelings hurt? > > Scott, if you can't see that, then there's not much hope for you. > > The guy has invested a tremendous amount of time and effort in > delivering a product that a lot of us never expected to see on a BSD, > and feels he's had all that work thrown back in his face. ok, where's the beef? Can an average user build hotspot 1.3.1 on FreeBSD 4.x? Has bill posted many times that he will not support hotspot on FreeBSD 4.x to freebsd-java@? As far as I understand hotspot for 1.3.1 is in the same state as it was in summer 2002 and nothing has changed so far to aid users to build it on 4.x without gathering bill's comments scattered all over freebsd-java@ archives. I know that next patchset will contain needed bits. Users do not want to run 5.0-CURRENT. That's the fact. Yes, bill could be possibly is a good hacker but what all this hacking is done for? I highly appreciate his work but nothing has changed since he started it. It is still easier to set up Java-powered website on Linux or on w2k + apache than loosing hours trying to understand how to build hotspot 1.3.1 on FreeBSD. Just look on this issue from an average admin or Java developer point of view. /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message