From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 16 08:38:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09432 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mandor.dev.com (mandor.dev.com [198.145.93.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09416 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mandor.dev.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mandor.dev.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18695 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610161532.IAA18695@mandor.dev.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:32:19 PDT From: Brian Smith Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk WARNING! This is a flame against a few people, not all of the audience. You know who you are. If not, just ask your FreeBSD neighbors. Some recent (and purposely unattributed) comments imply that the FreeBSD developers actually owe the users something. Why? Have those complaining users contributed money or time? How's that support fund coming, Jordan? :-( I always hear several people say that they are going to contribute money toward the fund after something like this, and then the facts come in: nobody really contributed. I just don't understand how many people seem to think that they have the leverage and/or the *right* to tell the FreeBSD developers what to do. In their free time, they are developing something that you and I can use, and do they receive gratitude with no strings attached? No. They seem to receive a few thanks with a large number of demands for improvements. As for me, sure, I'd like to see 2.2 released. I'd also like to see FreeBSD support for Window95 binaries, a multithreaded kernel, smoother Plug'n'Play support, a GUI that rivals Winslow/Macinsloth, and a dev environment like Visual C++. BUT!! I'm sure as h*ll thankful for what I've got. More importantly, I know that the only solution is for people like me to actually free up some time to CONTRIBUTE. If we insist on telling the core team what to do, they may treat it like a real job and insist that users pay for it. Worse, they may give up in disgust, as the spoiled children forget that FreeBSD is a contributor effort. Complaints don't solve problems. Working code does! ObPlatitude: If you aren't part of the solution... figure it out. A little peeved, Brian Smith P.S. This is no slight against the few people who actually have contributed to the FreeBSD fund. Jordan knows who you are. As for other contributions, send-pr and CVS knows who you are too.