From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 21:08:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196D716A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:08:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (neveragain.de [217.69.76.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E25743D3F for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:08:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amf@hobbit.neveragain.de) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (amf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) j34L86Yx026297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:08:06 +0200 Received: (from amf@localhost) by hobbit.neveragain.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j34L86l0026296; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:08:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:08:06 +0200 From: Dennis Koegel To: Reid Linnemann Message-ID: <20050404210806.GB25276@neveragain.de> References: <3080.1112634823@critter.freebsd.dk> <20050404194624.A7197A063D@csa.cs.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050404194624.A7197A063D@csa.cs.okstate.edu> X-PGP-KeyID: 0D73E19A User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (hobbit.neveragain.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:08:06 +0200 (CEST) cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk cc: "current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Can't change partition table anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:08:12 -0000 On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:46:24PM -0500, Reid Linnemann wrote: > >Today root is Tom, Dick and Harry and they need sensible padding. > > Frankly, I feel BSD operators are BSD operators because they > _want_ the power available, not because it's the new fad OS on the > block. The audience is more mature, and should be treated as asuch. > Honestly, I think most BSD operators expect the power of root to be > undiluted [...] As campaigning for FreeBSD was a topic recently, I'd like to note the following: The above was the very reason that brought me from Linux _to_ BSD. It feels much more grown up, much closer to the engine. Professionals don't want to be padded by computers. There's enough padding OSses out there already and GNU/Linux is becoming worse and worse in that regard. Question is: Does FreeBSD want to go down that drain as well? Then go and take care of Tom, Dick and Harry. There's something I call "death by publicity" and a lot of high quality people, organizations, things, ... went that path already. - D.