From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 28 19:52:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018B037B523 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27747; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:51:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAHBai41; Tue Mar 28 20:50:47 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29470; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:51:36 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003290351.UAA29470@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Guns and freedom [Was: Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD"] To: cjclark@home.com Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:51:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ragnar@sysabend.org (Jamie Bowden), tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (Mark Ovens), noslenj@swbell.net (Jay Nelson), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000327225620.C11538@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> from "Crist J. Clark" at Mar 27, 2000 10:56:20 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > When I, and anyone else not engaged in warping another's argument, > speak of "assault weapons" we are talking about firearms and > ammunitions designed for military or police use and the specific > purpose of injuring or killing human beings. I'm actually perfectly happy to define them as "firearms and ammunitions designed for citizens to defend themselves against military or police enforcement of tyrranies, such as taxation without representation by a foreign power, such as the British Crown". And in my book, that means that citizens should own them, unless you can somehow guarantee that the government under which you currently live will never become corrupt or tyrranical. This nation (the United States) was born from armed citizens with as good or better weapons than their oppressors rising up against tyrrany. This was less than 225 years ago, which is only about three times the current adult life expectances. We should be prepared to do it again, if we have to, and again, and to keep doing it until there are no more tyrants. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message