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Date:      Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:38:26 -0600
From:      Jamie Gritton <jamie@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Jail <freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: New jail(8) committed
Message-ID:  <4F9C00E2.3070205@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4F9B6E8F.8070708@erdgeist.org>
References:  <4F99AB0E.4090805@FreeBSD.org> <4F9B6E8F.8070708@erdgeist.org>

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The main reason I didn't consider a jail.d approach is just that I
haven't - such things are a little off the radar for me. It seemed very
natural to use a configuration file format that other programs already
use (e.g. named, apmd, devd). I suppose it's true that the "foo.d"
approach is also in use by other programs, though I mostly seem to see
those on Linux. And if I did opt for a directory approach, the files
within the directory would still need a format - you can't get away from
the fact that a config file needs a format.

It would be nice to have a general parser for C-style config files, and
I looked for such a library when I started on this. But such a library
doesn't seem to exist.Perhaps it's time to make one.

- Jamie

On 04/27/12 22:14, Dirk Engling wrote:
> On 26.04.12 22:07, Jamie Gritton wrote:
>
>> I've finally put my jail(8) changes into HEAD.  This new version of jail
>> can create jails from a configuration file - see jail.conf(5) for the
>> format, as well as some additions to jail(8).  This doesn't mean you
>> *have* to use jail.conf, but it's a better way to manage jails than the
>> existing rc.conf method.
>
> Out of curiosity, why did you settle for a /etc/jail.conf instead of a
> /etc/jail.d/? Your config file format introduces the dependency into an
> expensive parser while adding little value. Even worse, the user now has
> to struggle with just another format describing the system.
>
> I can foresee that my automated jail management tool ezjail will not be
> able to support the jail.conf format due to the lack of a parser. A look
> into ezjails config directory structure can give you a hint of how to
> achieve some similar clean up with built in tools.
>
> I am not saying, the config directory format is perfect, the current
> redundancy in jail_JAILNAME variables is a mess, but inventing a
> container format where files would do just fine in my opinion is overkill.
>
> Regards,
>
>    erdgeist



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