From nobody Fri May 16 20:21:29 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ZzdlG62TMz5wH3C for ; Fri, 16 May 2025 20:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ZzdlG5HPbz49cB; Fri, 16 May 2025 20:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1747426890; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=UZjCRbgsst265OKpANJTcw4mrCmVYk+HZF+pPkHoK0A=; b=X3MDZy///hrsKI5GjvLrOeO/krpltp27j3vzmS8nyQwJEP4M+qrxcl1TfIr3yS4XortfYl nB05jtmOqAvJR4GZdi8qe0akAaHxPMtOFqumbKnmvRVgjzX/DCpTuoY41DIrb6r6zd1tpP ABfGYl0Ichri49KAwZK/32XqClKKegNHhOwt1LuK5kP+MlqJUe/R7Ci4ttOsi0+UcWutQ9 T08jpBXep/cUKlu+B1E8IfEsMBcngmR6wiW368navvBC3AbddyQBfyPOsEWLU5V0B587tU QpiFkXOvGHUzLuHv48NdmIa4k5cycxI3/Pc/lkdLoTyOzhIsCMz9Shh9261g0w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1747426890; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=UZjCRbgsst265OKpANJTcw4mrCmVYk+HZF+pPkHoK0A=; b=eB857EJ2aInp26fu4RCJFscLp7gr/CNrkyBKVQWAqp4XjRZrd1TWLnUl1IfCrbzV6Gfrcy lwffZjSsWjxLhGFbCqBwXQhWkg3y0ttHi3JgzNN1poPsVqTNu0zOF3a2vh4g9uoTiwt5qG kiz1gsknt3PyodfyW4e7q3ALKORd/pPWZfQooalxTKDXswBXW9AXPyBiRVveSmhOHHg8V2 E/DfjBtmSC4mvgx+MCd2XzlyTiZf/VwJINEyOq8PLzEUmDRYIL4REr7TzSSknqtEueMZO/ q7PsaEGgd372IqI/U7u/fFfI5q7DAg+ICjKUH4+dFvvjihDvjmHe7O/1oB18AQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1747426890; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=X2QYnFI58q6hFSfpJKPmpQM5N5KeKdIoKdfJGnzLI+RSELtiwf5yPu3bLM4FRJ9seYKyYL rB8TB2I2C9Ybbs0Dp287F3Gc3N5Eep1+/7NXcweWgBbcUkqm7Ug8L9tRB1pxcob2qVaIST g6M2M8CzE6BJlqRkFthCIGLsJ3CfnsCZqc1wrwO201xn3m98TAev3jJMmFoDwZc60gUB48 uGc6QXsJ2j9ZV5+WmrK4+sWMuliGQ757SM3lN0wlXya3dEN2OdKBVtDOo0wDgtYtc5Jt0Z 6P6U6rlfT3ixWRfielGJyuNgIAqe2SAUcOi0RJKSU4ZSiEb1NOD9giTDKz4EaQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ragweed.eden.le-fay.org (ragweed.eden.le-fay.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:aab5:c401:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ivy/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4ZzdlG1g8Yz13L4; Fri, 16 May 2025 20:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 21:21:29 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Michael Butler Cc: Marek Zarychta , Cy Schubert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: epair(4) Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Michael Butler , Marek Zarychta , Cy Schubert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20250515162552.9209B20E@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250515185919.87008219@slippy.cwsent.com> <45d0f49d-229b-46b4-af95-6e8c4c856661@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <932111f8-f5ca-46d1-9f66-983f80f6116b@protected-networks.net> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K3yvZVOGRQlB20Jd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <932111f8-f5ca-46d1-9f66-983f80f6116b@protected-networks.net> --K3yvZVOGRQlB20Jd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Michael Butler: > On 5/16/25 15:52, Lexi Winter wrote: > > i don't really want to add a kernel message here for something that only > > affects a small percentage of users, unlike net.add_addr_allfibs which > > affected everyone who uses multiple fibs. > That "small percentage" includes most folk currently using jails and/or > bhyve (via sysutils/vm-bhyve). i am not sure about this. i admit i have not done a survey :-) however, i believe most people using jails or bhyve are not affected. the Handbook is clear about the correct way to configure this[0], so people who followed the handbook to configure their jails or bhyve VMs should not run into this problem. it is unfortunate that the same information was not in bridge(4) until recently. > If, as the bridge(4) man page suggests, the sysctl "goes away" in 16+, we'll > need some other mechanism to interconnect these. It cannot simply "go away" > without offering a solution. Any pointers? the solution is to configure the IP addresses on the bridge(4) interface rather than on the epair. [0]- for jails, : > ifconfig_bridge0="inet 192.168.1.150/24 addm em0 up" for bhyve, : > # sysrc ifconfig_bridge0="inet / addm igb0 addm tap0" for bridges in general, : > If the bridge host needs an IP address, set it on the bridge > interface, not on the member interfaces. --K3yvZVOGRQlB20Jd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaCeeSAAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YPJ4AQCbx6YfVfoRVo+0j9+MaGpTy4IZj8Qlt3tvBe28ItQdAwEAmZA4UpNribxz g2yqhEtKc9u3YdyQtUHLlvQ9FJGN7A0= =2TFZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K3yvZVOGRQlB20Jd--