From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 19 19:21:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909CC16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freedombi.com (gllug.org [207.179.98.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2375A43D5F for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from charles@idealso.com) Received: by freedombi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 81F7572EE9; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freedombi.com (bugs.idealso.com [192.168.10.108]) by freedombi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AD46A725B0; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65.144.150.251 (SquirrelMail authenticated user charles) by freedombi.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33255.65.144.150.251.1087672901.squirrel@freedombi.com> In-Reply-To: <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> References: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Ulrich" To: "Ladislav Bodnar" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on freedombi.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DIALUP,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:21:45 -0000 Ladislav Bodnar said: > In all honesty, I don't feel confident about upgrading an entire system > by compiling from sources. Maybe it's because I've been bitten by > upgrade problems on Gentoo, but also because, from whatever little > experience I have with FreeBSD, compiling from sources can fail on > FreeBSD too. Yes, building from sources on FreeBSD can fail, but if you're tracking -STABLE, it's a fairly unlikely occurance. And much more unlikely if you're tracking updates to a specific release which is what I typically do for production machines. I've only been using FreeBSD for about 2 years now, but I haven't yet run across a problem with source upgrades that wasn't my fault. The alert FreeBSD developers and the very structure of the development process itself both minimize the chance of something bad happening to end-users during an upgrade. In a nutshell: you can count on FreeBSD to build cleanly from sources 99.999% of the time as long as you're doing everything right. Charles Ulrich