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Date:      Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:01:18 -0400
From:      Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org>
To:        John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Re[2]: Wine and mmap
Message-ID:  <20040828040118.GA1085@green.homeunix.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040828013612.GN7113@freebsd3.cimlogic.com.au>
References:  <47158390.20040827112834@ulstu.ru> <20040827091556.GM7113@freebsd3.cimlogic.com.au> <1698443921.20040827135316@ulstu.ru> <200408271245.15447.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20040827230502.GS77326@green.homeunix.org> <20040828013612.GN7113@freebsd3.cimlogic.com.au>

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On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:36:12AM +1000, John Birrell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:05:02PM -0400, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
> > Can you be certain that 100% of kernel changes to support WINE are present
> > after fixing mmap?  I heard WINE was still broken, so I haven't bothered
> > trying.
> 
> I think that 100% of the kernel memory changes required to support
> Wine are related to mmap. Wine successfully maps the address space it
> wants before dlopen'ing shared libraries. It's the kernel's choice of
> map address that fails.
> 
> There is at least one problem with Wine using libpthread. Whether that relates
> to kernel or user-space code remains to be seen. I think the thread problem
> is a separate issue.
> 
> FWIW, I see no hurry in changing the mmap address allocation in CVS. This
> issue has been around for months and *very* few people have commented. The
> other BSD's are in the same boat.
> 
> I intend to test the patch written by Anish and move on to the next Wine
> problem 'when I get a chance' (TM). When Wine works again, albeit with a few
> patches, then it will be time to find an implementation that people find
> palatable. I thought that raising the issue on -arch like I did would have
> at least got some response (even a single reply). Linux chooses random mmap
> addresses for good reason. It would seem sensible to do that in FreeBSD too
> (for the same reason).

Is the problem that it specifically runs out of memory area but it's not
checking where it needs to?  If so, I think you could hash out the solution
with a wrapper/workaround mmap() in userland first.

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