From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 19:05:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37B516A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3158A13C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so428123uge.37 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zxZFvo7aWcBkadQDPU2n6fetk/sw1WH09gkA5CFr8Hg=; b=sWgnfcetViST01JubyjnkJw+J9IwfFxQcxxUEA/3P2V0qDp5BvAwuUvHtFvNlopJMoUwFqrCEOtToOp0OEVN+lh58MUG98FV+MujQRCjRJmqDIHfHxq7GW8YzRm9LcwWneHMBRWzhgk4/j9QbOiRFoiixNU8j30AnHsy4oB41Jk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h3HkQFg+6JqcYNZCBssywiRhonT1H8Q1cfn7fIf5RD/g4WvD5Nv0lhu8kOiObfOdwQImA3cszAq6h/+PMT3M7Pl5DeHgy9Yx3uPhiLEGBh/bRZIiVbhRiLZhGlQLXZGPx9fEvSUmLf+UTjHMHwA6dXoo68ikwHSjburVVDPwhnk= Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr7023882fgb.1197399954498; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.91.5 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11167f520712111105l7a897d60w36de6c8ad7cb7b1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:05:54 -0600 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "Kip Macy" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <11167f520712082309s20895ae0se1780b029745c055@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 NVIDIA support in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:05:56 -0000 On Dec 9, 2007 1:35 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > The problem is that it is a moving target. In order to support NVIDIA > long term FreeBSD would need to maintain API parity with Linux. As > Linux adds new interfaces, NVIDIA incorporates them into their driver. > Unless someone steps up and decides to own the continuing support > effort to add those interfaces as the need arises, it isn't likely to > happen. so if I understand the situation correctly, maintaining feature / Performance parity with Linux for Nvidia video cards is possible, but it isn't likely that a current FreeBSD developer will donate the (probably large) amount of time to maintain it. would maintaining API parity with linux for the purpose of allowing 64bit 3D acceleration support in any way hurt FreeBSD's long term Goals ? > > On the upside, it looks like ATI's opening up is starting to bear fruit. from what it sounds like it ATI may be more of a realistic hope for compiz, and 3D video games to one day work on 64bit FreeBSD Thank you for taking the time to explain this. Sam Fourman Jr. > > > -Kip > > > > On 12/8/07, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am aware that currently 3D accelerated support for Nvidia cards is > > not possible on the amd64 platform. > > > > My understanding is Nvidia (in 2006) requested some changes to the > > kernel that will improve performance,and > > ultimately provide support to the amd64 platform. > > the status of these changes can be found here > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests > > > > what I am confused about is how complex is the nature of these requests? > > is it realistic to think they will be MFC'ed to FreeBSD 7.x or will > > they have to be in 8.x ? > > > > assuming the changes outlined here > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests are completed > > > > would the Features and performance be on par with Linux Eg. FC8 ? > > > > I am hoping someone could explain these questions. > > > > Thank you Much > > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > > > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >