From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Fri Dec 28 21:51:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922531423FFA for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06C506D5D3 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:51:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 0D6413CB-5F2D-49C2-9066-2FC6F09FD91E.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:51:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 00:51:08 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: A question about graphics subsystems under FreeBSD To: starikarp@yandex.com Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1546033869.3411.4@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <20181228162750.12b4fc44@yandex.com> References: <1545661179.1813.0@smtp.migadu.com> <20181228162750.12b4fc44@yandex.com> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=aBVYVdOq87OSZMsWHHrK3WqeVWx7R1aym5KolMCapVY=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=PgAwuufUPOeinFoFSMT+YvxZ0bx/wIKFQY0b5uP2J2aT5SceXrLDO8btGcAAD0HhVYxxQ954PHfk0lvfhknsyzY6O4nD6Y4KBuzOuVspNDC80lz7b20GbJKyI35YIPnm8QC1O4MWPLLuBUBX08A7bibaQsMkt9EowJFv0qprPDQ= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 06C506D5D3 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=PgAwuufU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[aspmx1.migadu.com,aspmx2.migadu.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yandex.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.58)[ip: (-9.85), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-3.48), asn: 16276(0.43), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:51:19 -0000 On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 12:27 AM, starikarp@yandex.com wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:12:09 -0800 > Pete Wright wrote: >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> >> - *really* old (*ancient*) Radeons might need drm-legacy-kmod and >> >> xf86-video-ati-legacy >=20 > *really old* (*ancient*) - which year is the end of the old cards and > it started with the newer, please? I don't think there is a hard line. Between radeonkms and amdgpu =97 we know, radeonkms supports the first=20 two Graphics Core Next architectures and everything *before*, while=20 amdgpu supports the first two Graphics Core Next architectures and=20 everything *after*. Between the "modern" radeonkms (LinuxKPI-based) and "legacy" radeonkms=20 (old direct port to FreeBSD base)=85 well, "if you have problems with=20 modern, try legacy". I guess we could eventually collect enough reports=20 to know which GPUs only work on legacy. But no hard line. =