From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 8 19:42:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA21831 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21825 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:42:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA16246; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:42:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971208194209.62841@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:42:09 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Mark Mayo Cc: Julian Elischer , dg@root.com, Nate Williams , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [hackers:] Architectural advice needed References: <199712082204.OAA23754@implode.root.com> <348C78C4.6F5992E1@whistle.com> <19971208204221.23659@vmunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19971208204221.23659@vmunix.com>; from Mark Mayo on Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 08:42:21PM -0500 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Mayo scribbled this message on Dec 8: > One thing that would have really helped us out that I now see in the > win95/Mac netscape and mickeysoft conferencing tools is the > "blackboard" thing - you can scribble and write on a blackboard > that is shared by all members of the conference. I don't think this is > present in the Unix version of Netscape 4.0 though... Bummer. why not use sdr, whiteboard, and vat?? I've recieved quite good resposne at home (over a 28.8k) from Luigi (in Europe) using GSM on vat (I could hear him type :) )... but the other way was to overloaded for me to chat with him... I'm looking at moving into the university dorms, and once I do, then I can have all the fun of multicast... > One thing is for certain, conferencing tools will almost certainly > represent a pretty big market in the years to come. Especially once we > start getting ADSL and cable modem rollouts so you can have an audio/video > link happening. The FreeBSD project, IMHO, is a shining example of what > can be accomplished through the Net, and the success is remarkable given > the relatively primitive tools used! yep... once the higher speed connections come out.. then we can use the Bt848 and a camera for video conferencing.. :) > If it doesn't already exist, an X conferencing tool certainly seems like > a neat program "waiting to be created" by some spirited programmer > out there! :-) yep, they all pretty much exist... the ones that don't exist are the ones that don't require X... :( -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD