From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:13:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0928C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684B98FC08 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u54so2289607wey.13 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=joS/yTDaZp7RQZeuDw3I8EDDe4QCimwAYhp9gk+gqG8=; b=bj1TTSPy5d23XZc2OISfeQduNto9nVet7HfDB1Tdu6kT31O6jogC3F06hJUcw1lhJa Wy+BtB+0rljkom0GMQkvmG/qPBkZIt8a3e/tacBKoPAMgY7EEGxVmZqPr/wSL/+Swwfa PmutJTahTvk5TZ43nuvsCkGR4fNHf1ZJk+WxI41Hk1W2puEtnsqOD/M8kGRaoBzoFxWS qEUUwczNq0RJHMfNfPIfgChoDkydkzW4zrbWa3x/mmkDhCNxJiItbVCaWpnmy9zIhJEh rqHSrGBIsdckxx2jLlBoBBCl1pij5Cbss4UBpaq4tLOuRME0C83YAiv3K0+C6/uCxaJh /EEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.120.132 with SMTP id lc4mr2041410wjb.59.1355249612324; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> <201212102352.QAA09737@lariat.net> <20121211140043.GB20011@in-addr.com> <20121211173234.260bf5b8@suse3> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:32 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LDfIkz3s1XKZqpbnXbnCzmYFQo4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? From: Adrian Chadd To: Ronald Klop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:13:34 -0000 On 11 December 2012 08:44, Ronald Klop wrote: > I suggest to make a timeline AND communicate what is happening _now_. Some > small official statement from the release team now and then would make a > large difference. The release team (and developer team in general) know that communication about 9.1-RELEASE hasn't been all that great. They've been doing the "focus on getting work done" thing and yes, unfortunately communication has suffered. Let's all be supportive of them and the enormous amount of hard work they put into trying to get a free release out there for people to use; being critical like this is very likely going to have exactly the opposite effect for people under pressure. :) Adrian