From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 25 14:17:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DB637B401; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-106-47.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.106.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7153B43E88; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DF766BE3; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E5F812DD; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:48 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kennaway , Robert Watson , Mikhail Teterin , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current unusable after a crash Message-ID: <20021125221748.GA11747@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200211250959.39594.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20021125172445.GA8953@rot13.obsecurity.org> <3DE29DE6.CDD96F3F@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DE29DE6.CDD96F3F@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 02:02:14PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > I don't think this is really possible. Yeah :( > If you made system dumps mandatory (or marked swap with a non-dump > header in case of panic), this still would not handle the "silent > reboot", "double panic", or "single panic with disk I/O trashed" > cases. 8-(. And the panics that affect the disk/filesystem are likely to not give a crashdump, but at the same time are likely to cause FS problems for bgfsck :-( Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message