From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 2 20:27:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC57BAAFD for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 20:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5301::5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 460dxS58Gfz4Sgx for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 20:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1564777625; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=PKvJDMi9rosIFrinFm9Z7HjdKeyr3j5cpHBqHG1NpUg=; b=ScaPj1niLJCSlSoMURp8JAEHz4j4aTyjob9PNmxagzjag/B1epl83scl21WaC2CDiq 7R6uilYfvlcKhlaV450k78dMtyft9PDSbBuzLjb+jYt3QZRNHjcxbZdppa8ys2uiEKv8 eQvL8huoVq6k8vmpBVaFRnqx8Q/o+PtFMlafW42lU34lMlC8iGNm+vmO+aEr2jGRM6v6 uRk017aPOgKFp1uTfxYm7FV1w+KaWem19EdkoAfBub2jOp4vjIne6owQyz6twMsrd4hb iTirw4oFkvcLX1QlBTeHmo+RkmJ+oAYHj91diaVTTiUmswZdwrJ3pyfTF3DiVu87O2pV 51lg== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv72KR5ZB6 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Fri, 2 Aug 2019 22:27:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hte8m-000072-Kk; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:27:04 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hte8m-0001JS-J4; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:27:04 +0200 From: hw To: Robert Huff Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thunderbird in German? In-Reply-To: <23875.44467.255402.483061@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (Robert Huff's message of "Thu, 1 Aug 2019 23:27:47 -0400") Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:49:17 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <8736ij9wle.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87o91bw4mx.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190731012754.3783a859.freebsd@edvax.de> <878ssc5v3x.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <23875.44467.255402.483061@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 460dxS58Gfz4Sgx X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=ScaPj1ni; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lee@adminart.net has no SPF policy when checking 2a01:238:20a:202:5301::5) smtp.mailfrom=lee@adminart.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.879,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.26), asn: 6724(-0.45), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:27:09 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > hw writes: > >> Is there a usable alternative to Thunderbird for an IMAP client? > > Define "usable alternative". Is this just about the interface > language, or are there other features you need? It means something that users can use who have no clue what they're doing; yet they need to be able to read and write emails (despite they never figured out how to write emails) and --- imagine that! --- _print_ them, including attachments. It also needs to work reliably.