From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:47:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62912A488FE for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C63513A5 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id dc2119ae; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3df74adf TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Adam Vande More , Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:47:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:47:33 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 17:07 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky > wrote: > > > > Dell Precision M6600 > > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and > > > doesn't > > work after resume(it does before).  Since I don't use it, it's not > > an issue > > for me. > > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel > > > graphics".   Obviously > > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power > > consumption.  I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but > > it isn't > > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I > > expect > > that it would. > > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing > > rendering > > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel > > unconditionally. > > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff > like 3D > is active. > > > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy > > Bridge. > > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional > > video > > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if > > disabling > > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > > > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video > performance > is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such > would be > playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor.  I no > lag, no > stuttering, no distortion.  I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I > don't > use it. > > I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not > guaranteed. > For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy > Bridge > and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used > pricing. I would quibble with this, the Iris Pro Graphics are a significant step up from the HD Graphics line. It means I have to use Linux (for now), but it is a rather nice GPU. > > All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of > several > other systems.  However it is big and heavy.  It does not fit in > standard > laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive > touchpad.  But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM along > with > all its other power. > > >