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Date:      Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:20:35 -0400
From:      Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>
To:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   What is it good for? (was "Helping Victims of Terror")
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010922153752.017f8b18@threespace.com>

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I could respond to all the individual points that were made, but I'd be 
here all day, and I really want to install my fresh new FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE 
before the weekend is over. ;-)

First of all, I think that everybody agrees that what happened in the U.S. 
on September 11th was atrocious.  I think that every government except 
Iraq's made official statements to that effect.

Secondly, I don't think that anybody wants a full-blown war.  That would 
mean the loss of bloodshed and life for everyone involved including the 
U.S., and I really don't believe that we're the warmongers that we're often 
made out to be in other places.

Finally, I think that everyone agrees that some sort of response from the 
U.S. is necessary or at least well within our rights.

And that seems to be about where the agreements end.

Some think that the U.S. is being the bully here, using its superior 
military power in an attempt to coerce a smaller nation into giving up one 
of its citizens.  There have also been cries that the U.S. completely 
hypocritical for being largely oblivious to the tragedies of other 
countries and then decrying September 11th as one of the darkest days in 
the past 50 years.

Others, like myself, think that the U.S. has already shown considerable 
restraint with its use of military force.  Remember, it has already been 11 
days since the incident as I write this, and there has been NO OFFICIAL 
MILITARY ACTION WHATSOEVER.  (Motion, but not action.)  The destroyed 
plane, bombed embassies, the Cole bombing--and now this.  It has escalated 
well beyond the point of a response, and I think most other nations would 
already be firing shots by now.  Afghanistan's hand waving about how they 
have bin Laden contained have gotten old.  (I question how the Taliban can 
know this when their only means of communication with him is radio...but 
his communication with the outside world is cut off, right?)

So now they're in a position where they're told to assist the U.S. and turn 
over bin Laden or suffer the consequences of having the U.S. go *through* 
them to get to him.  No, it's not an enviable position, but I don't think 
they're inculpable in this situation.

As a kid I used to hang out with guys who shoplifted, so it couldn't really 
come as any surprise to me when I found myself in the back of a police car 
for something I hadn't directly been part of.  You are the company you keep.

Let's just hope that this doesn't become a war or a widespread global 
conflict.  Like I said, I think we all agree on that part.

--Chip Morton


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