From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 24 7:53:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC30E37B43C for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 30062 invoked by uid 100); 24 Apr 2001 14:53:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15077.37736.343075.7097@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:53:28 -0500 To: "Andresen,Jason R." Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with In-Reply-To: <3AE58AF6.4682DCB6@mitre.org> References: <3AE3753C.E82BCB03@eproduct.org> <20010422201232.A93750@cec.wustl.edu> <02dd01c0cb94$0ccc7c60$931576d8@inethouston.net> <3AE58AF6.4682DCB6@mitre.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andresen,Jason R. types: > "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > > > Also remember that a great deal of spam (at least most of the stuff that > > > comes to me) has my name as a greeting in the body, or in the subject > > > line. It would be trivial to automate the process of adding > > > [freebsd-stable] to the front of the subject line when the message is > > > sent to freebsd-stable@freebsd.org. This would have us all working extra > > > for no reason. > > I find that the most effective way to deal with spam is look at the headers > > and mail abuse@ every server in the list. I find that most isps take care > > of it(or atleast say they do) I think someone mentioned this. Once people > > started to get their accounts deleted a few times, they might stop it Yup. abuse.net provides a useful service for this, as it makes it more likely that the mail will get to whoever you want it to go to. You do have to subscribe to the service, but that's free. > One thing I've found that is fairly effective is to "bounce" spams > back as undeliverable. A lot of times the spammers just ignore > the bounce (they get 1000s of them no doubt) but there is a chance > that they will take your apparently dead address off of the list. > > The big danger is compltely broken spam agents that consider ANY > response a good response. No, the big danger is that the bounce is going to hit some poor person who has nothing to do with the spam in question, other than owning the domain name that was forged onto it. Check out the to see how bad that can get. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message