From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 17 04:48:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CE1259F7A for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 04:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48hLK44p51z41kt for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 04:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=mfchRMQjp25VDT3pL9GgWwlK4V8ssXB2Ws7RLgY6Fh8=; b=AL8WGkFQmdWT/l/axJRSMnMaYv lUbswDYWUmp3A1R4Ymll2SLN9nYw6wHpzjgPmmUGxAekKAMt3qTvie0sf9gv+vDL1gedYFM4GKGFM wN4Eheqj2D0mf7vBo7yMpNyL1tBKuSurnghUPqTXO5P290zCs9Todpkf8op2gdpB04Uo=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jE49N-0005Bq-UG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:48:21 +0700 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:48:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200317044821.GA19098@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200215141238.GY1879@aurora.gregv.net> <20200316110246.GB95052@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48hLK44p51z41kt X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=AL8WGkFQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.36)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.90), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 04:48:26 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christos Chatzaras wrote: >=20 > > 1. On Debian, you can run several instances of php-fpm with different > > PHP versions in them. > >=20 > > 2. On Debian, you can install and run several versions of PostgreSQL > > simultaneously thanks to the pg_createcluster/pg_lsclusters/... > > infrastructure. > >=20 > > All that from standard packages, without manual compiling and tweaking, > > jails etc, with minimal effort. > >=20 > > Not that FreeBSD could not do that, it just does not do that. Especially > > PHP verions are a great PITA. >=20 > It's not much effort to use jails for these cases. I prefer it this way. Using jails will be especially counterproductive in case of PostgreSQL because you will not be able to do smart things like=20 "pg_update --link --old-datadir XXX --new-datadir YYY". --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJecFaVAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0RvUH/A23YizIz0+cYbSAgN9bHZGE y+BLj3EjLSPrp0uAiMcY36j0obWDSxY78GvI4aLLgnzQVv7b7yIgBkJeZO4usz8W R1kxKC4RjBMhnHYHflAFow2Azoa23cqlse+5Eu0wDokP6G0OxV1gj6DvLUxJhA5z XO1yW6ptd3sTGSb3sY8qcRHv0eO9E5I1GZmlH9XqiDIfu7tw/bkkzkZ6+2Xf4GZD r25mSzeqDIurTgbp4VqOe0OdJpAiOHvMGphE+0SckuFRtYeX3EKOP1MBcV/mmW7c DbaxXikVpC+dqdwsWrt78yF9MAv6zXjt3KjMRBOuq7t44mSZ5D1nxRvFv6RzZKw= =Mklf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9--