From nobody Mon Nov 17 17:08:29 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4d9DjC1W5lz6GZMC for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4d9DjC0lZrz3ZCb; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1763399311; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+674ops9RyRnjjEdeedi9lvzwQWoILtEXBaLAxt+U+8=; b=GqJIxSuSvXmIabuER3BXliDs2i6hFeU678WbeB+LXrQRf6TBRtwQg6QMsoTfxvb3Wkf6ra Eqyk03xKhVHy5pcM7kuAinZP21+w3W4dRDqqMQEumaF4QLHQcEO8hLxyuVBoJ0zAmKHy3v wle6MsWSbQ1m1EWlYgq0Wxr/5Axcbyt3mhrPDiQazvgJssi/n4Vim8eRfkIrIwq69KciAN DeIXctl1F1IYdoQ0Xn4YG7Yrgw44mSmb3Z7uRECUn3EPFboWxVbytjYiBkSbsyWgAx3tED FmQoFg8b6S1gEUY0Sj+QyRk2Nt30FJL6Cw7wqxHNXpJmYZbBJTT6qHU4wb1LqQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1763399311; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+674ops9RyRnjjEdeedi9lvzwQWoILtEXBaLAxt+U+8=; b=iUW/K+txHbie9opeg7oLrO95R9aAsTIgHNB5/V8niUVV5Q5wByHVHHB8RjkvzjAyI+/Cny g2mJYUSoYSAG39lHKN2D+vPN3OHi0AP3Tofe9hUcbVrjU0PETU0+5v9p90gJNTHd0aaS2h dUfAm933L+hFkBp0Vx8LRO70Gb7lTDH/DsrCqCcUn13R+Acd4nWS6mvTSPH1LWQc944cst eYj6NrzRAItnTNISZ2r+e5Fub3o34DQxv3Q6I7WEZgDDpUemU1twIK3c3dOfVQTrSEWcBU e6ZRfCXo4u8oI87XD2DwuukDYtYFDewBgVUXi5EzSx+uTGTHRrzS9so6jVj5BQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1763399311; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=joFNDw7bY0I2lkPhfT9jGcmAiqyvvgti/9rWNy7UFD8Ho6ZluJDpEodz2Cd7wZdWn2xWTc qXZu+LWWfci91Be/hBmFelGLuB4NewR6baNz7We71jDnhkl48lDBmg61s5QnRKl/GV8IcC yo3PfwHA4zFkw1cl+axxTs6kz/xaopDmYz3jGQ82pKb6fq5xPVoqPCaBwUMqLu9U8s94JW hF7+6cHH+Y6F/Lg+rGRzGykwVLhytntwdrk7iIrd65yS0vq0m19bLYU3O+0qAzQXH53uEf jjGf4g5jYIVwODNBEdwRS9QyEQp4Gjv9/SEwtxgnwavPfNKz+qm+gKLIrFFhKA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [IPV6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:fc83:bc47:59ca:bd00] (unknown [IPv6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:fc83:bc47:59ca:bd00]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4d9DjB6Q62zBDn; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 12:08:29 -0500 List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Future of armv7 Content-Language: en-US To: void , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <8aa378a1-94fb-4cb1-9bca-8e68eb8e0938@FreeBSD.org> From: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/15/25 14:14, void wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 11:44:42AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > >> Community surveys, show of hands at conferences, mailing list traffic and >> armv7 package downloads (this is second hand). > > Hmm. OK. But you'd never have counted my usage for example, and I > use 3x rpi2b's. > > I've never seen a survey about this and I've never attended a > conference. Much of the time if there's an issue I'd > search first before posting on freebsd-arm@. > I think it's reasonable to assume I'm not alone in this. There is an annual user survey broadcast to announce@, etc. Please do fill it out the next time it is offered. The last survey was posted in April of 2025, so I expect the next one to be around the same timeframe in 2026. -- John Baldwin