From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:12:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2D16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D144343D5F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004112917122501100lbkjbe>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:14:49 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:29 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, > but this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add > in show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I > know that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism > or anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of > label of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine > operating system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is > commonly associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and > for example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I > think that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to > be removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would > be easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. > > Best, Stephen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, just had to comment on a related matter to this. I was talking to my doctor who is a rabbid christian. The subject came to browsers and I said "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a Christian..." Was the first time I have known of anyone being offended by a dragon ion. LOL. I forgot to tell him that he could change it to something he liked better. But it gives me shivers of joy just knowing how offensive free Unix is. Rob .