From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 09:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0C816A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09A14400B for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAOHWJvX064037; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAOHWI37064036; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:32:18 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Rahul Siddharthan Message-ID: <20031124173218.GB63983@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20031124114006.GA60761@dragon.nuxi.com> <20031124160024.GA27996@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031124160024.GA27996@online.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Tim Kientzle Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:32:24 -0000 [ From: set to /dev/null as too many can't follow the Reply-To: ] On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:00:24AM -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > NO. /rescue was allowed in the system to handle the case of a trashed > > file in /lib[exec]. To allow a sysadmin to recover a system from the > > same type of mishaps they could before we went to a dynamic /. > > Ie, let's do things the same way we did in 1994? Other things have > changed since then, hard drives and typical root partitions are much > bigger, and Tim estimated the total bloat from this as 64k. Maybe > earlier, pre-/rescue, you couldn't recover from damaged files in the > root partition without a CD/floppy/NFS, it doesn't mean you should not > have that capability in /rescue. Lets have /rescue/{[s]bin,usr/[s]bin}. Install static copies of every thing in /[s]bin and /usr/[s]bin today. That will let you recover in even more ways. Where does it end if we don't go full-out and install a 2nd copy of every binary? > For a *lot* of people today (like home users), an up-to-date FreeBSD > CD or floppy or a second machine to create the disk on may not be > handy (and forget about NFS), but a network connection may still be > available. That network connection would most likely be a M$-Win box in that case, which doesn't have an FTP server. Samba, not an FTP client should be in /rescue then.