From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 06:28:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDD106564A for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 06:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5097E8FC19 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 06:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE81EB4C56; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E154450C6; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:18 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8J8c-bDC0ODS; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl23-160.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.150.160]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0E34509B; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4U6SHGG043323; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4U6SH22043322; Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar References: <6C96EEF057EDE24197FECB0D1EA035044A8F6EB461@h1341255.aoemedia.de> <20090527124014.6998139c@gom> <20090527203000.GA1328@fusion.opticnetworks.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDCC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <4A1EF89C.9040505@isafeelin.org> <87prdsr5ep.fsf_-_@kobe.laptop> <87r5y8cprs.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87bppci91h.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87my8w6shm.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87octcuklu.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:16 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Fri, 29 May 2009 15:14:20 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: <87ws7zgl4v.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On the need for moderated questions lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 06:28:20 -0000 On Fri, 29 May 2009 15:14:20 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Not necessarily. >> >> There were 'rules' in Nazi Germany too, and there usually exist at >> least some 'rules' in oppressive regimes, but they do not >> necessarily, by virtue of their mere existence, lead to satisfying >> results. > > The difference is that you have choice here, people living in Nazi > Germany (and Poland) that times didn't. First of all, this is not a personal comment, directed at you, but a comment on the idea of 'strict moderation'. Another thing that is worth stating is that invoking Godwin's law means I instantly lose any argument; I know that already. More importantly, I do not mean to sound disrespectful to you or other Polish people. Especially since my own family has lost people in WWII. But the choice you have in a strictly moderated mailing list is about the same as the choice my people had in that particular oppressive regime: leave or stay to fight a hopeless battle. That's what bothers me with strict moderation. It hinders the freedom of expression of people, forcing them to go through unreasonable hoops whenever their personality is slightly different from the 'permitted' forms of straight-jacket. >>> already told you i will >> >> Thank you! I'll be watching for interesting updates :) > > OK no later than tomorrow morning There are 53 archive files for freebsd-questions in 2008. Their average size is 1,863,288 bytes. This means around 8,229,522 of email for each month of 2008 alone. This is a lot of text to go through, even in a semi-automated manner. So please, take your time. I'm not some sort of Dilbertian manager who wants you ``to do the impossible and do it a week ago, because we sold it already to someone''.