From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 27 10:29:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41105106568E; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FB18FC48; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-75-65-240-232.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [75.65.240.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE58237B62C; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:12:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 179B261C41; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:12:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:12:04 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Brian Somers Message-ID: <20090827101204.GI10667@over-yonder.net> References: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20090826234009.13b90734@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090826234009.13b90734@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20-fullermd.4 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Ivan Radovanovic Subject: Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:29:13 -0000 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:40:09PM -0700 I heard the voice of Brian Somers, and lo! it spake thus: > > I think this is a shame as I find the pros more compelling than the > cons, and I'm sure there are more than a few supporters out there on > hackers@ that will stay silent. FWIW, I'm in favor of at least carefully examining whether the cons really disqualify the change. My uses of ps pretty well fall into three categories: 1) The times I use -ww 2) The times it doesn't matter whether I did or not 3) The times I wish I'd used -ww, sometimes way later in the game when a script *DOESN'T* do what it's supposed to because ps isn't actually giving me the command. Thanks, ps. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.