From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 14:52:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD139106567A for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46468FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m67Ene8u074293; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:49:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m67EnekT074292; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:49:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:49:40 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: DAve Message-ID: <20080707144940.GA74244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <487195BA.1090906@pixelhammer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <487195BA.1090906@pixelhammer.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:52:14 -0000 On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 12:04:10AM -0400, DAve wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > >>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:05 PM > >>To: FreeBSD Mailing List > >>Subject: Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? > >> > >> > >>On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:15:39PM -0400, DAve wrote: > >>>Steve Franks wrote: > >>>>So call me a sociopath, but times are a bit scary. I'd like to do the > >>>>2000's equivalent of the 1960's bomb shelter, and have my very own > >>>>snapshot in case of major local/regional internet disruption, etc. > >>>> > >>>>What would be the best way to go about this. I see with <1T words, it > >>>>appears doable on current technology. Maybe they should offer a > >>>>snapshot on DVDs or disk as a fundraiser? I'd drop $300 for some sort > >>>>of officially licenced copy, I suspect there are other freaks that > >>>>would too... > >>>When the world gets that bad, Wikipedia is the least of my concerns, > >>>slightly ahead of who is winning American Idol. If it comes to > >>the point > >>>the internet goes down for a long period of time, that $300 is better > >>>spent on a garden. > >>> > >>>Just my thoughts. > >>Actually . . . if things get that bad, you're going to need some > >>firepower to protect your garden (and everything else you don't want > >>taken from you by force). To properly protect a garden, you'd need to > >>make it a community farm, with community members who have and will use > >>firearms to protect it (and your Wikipedia mirror). > >> > >>Of course, I greatly admire the impulse to protect the collected > >>knowledge of Wikipedia from disaster. It's also practical -- because it > >>contains a lot of information that might be of use (including good > >>subsistence gardening information, for those of us who don't have > >>naturally green thumbs). > >> > > > >If the crash comes and you don't have 4 - 5 years of experience > >running a garden on your land, plus your own well, your gonna starve. > > > >Veggies are very particular as to the kind of soil they like, and the > >light and water they get. And it takes several years of trying different > >ones to figure out the ones that do best in your soil. And most modern > >veggies are hybrids and the seed is genetically engineered, and patented. > >Many varieties are, in fact, sterile. Many others require irrigation to > >produce sizable yields. > > > >To put in a "heritage" garden that will produce given the normally > >occurring rainfall in your area takes someone with many years of > >experience in your area growing gardens. By the time you would > >be able to get one going from info in wikipedia, you would have > >died of starvation. > > > >Ted > > Some of us will have veggies/skills/water for trade. But what he says is > true. It ain't as easy as read a page, plant a row. If I have a question > on FreeBSD, Wikipedia is my last resort, after phone calls. While it is > useful I suppose to some, I would never base a decision on anything I > read there. It is useful for key words and topics to expand a search > through better sources, but not much else. If Wikipedia is killing > Encyclopedia sales, it is because people are willing to accept > mediocrity over accuracy if accuracy comes at a price and mediocrity is > free. > > It has been my experience, maybe things have changed, that a hardbound > reference book is the equivalent of asking Bunny Watson for an answer, > and Wikipedia is like asking Cliffy on Cheers. Now, if you think Print Encyclopedias and/or Wikipedia are incomplete and inaccurate, try checking out textbooks for Middle school, High school and even undergraduate college. ////jerry > > DAve > > > -- > Don't tell me I'm driving the cart! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"