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Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:46:02 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <202006201110.05KBAZBU099451@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <3bab2cbf-c221-7d18-5257-2d3971975558@selasky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49q4Pq0FY3z4YGr X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:44.224.0.0/11, country:US] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 18:46:07 -0000 On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 07:57 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:27 AM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > > On 2020-06-20 13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > Author: imp > > > > Date: Sat Jun 20 04:19:17 2020 > > > > New Revision: 362422 > > > > URL:https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362422 > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > Increase the whimsy in this file by famring dump's work out to > > > > minions. Adjust > > > > variables accordingly. Thankfully, we are able to do this without > > > > additional > > > > banana expenditures. > > > > > > This flys in the face of its intent and as a "commit" is more > > > racially biased than the code was! > > > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > Maybe a stupid question, but is this the correct meaning or description > > of minion? > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=minions > > > > minion; plural noun: minions > > > > a follower or underling of a powerful person, especially a servile > > or unimportant one. > > "he gets oppressed minions like me to fob them off" > > > > "Minion" is still a person, like "slave" is, so I must say I agree with > > Rodney about this, I don't see how this makes it any better? Can you > > explain? > > > > For me, Minions come from the Despicable Me movies and sequels. They work > for Gru, who pays them for their services. They love Bananas and often do > crazy things for a banana. They work for Gru willingly. They are free to > leave at any time. They are sad at the prospect of Gru having to lay them > off. > > Minions are also, as you point out, employed by the powerful to accomplish > things. Key word here is 'employed'. Servile doesn't mean 'involuntary > servitude' but rather 'an excessive willingness to please.' Underling means > only that them are below them on the org chart. There's no inherent > implication of an abusive relationship, per se, though that happens as in > any power relationship between people. > > And the extensive searching I did before the commit showed no complaints > about the movies, or that this term had some coded, racist history. Or any > other coded history that's problematic. Or any overt history for that > matter. > > SaltStack uses it as their name for agents that carry out tasks, for > example. > > So what am I missing? > Common sense, apparently. -- Ian