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From: Coleman Kane <zombyfork@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: OpenBSD's netcat in base or ports?
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I agree. I think even tcpdump, libpcap, and ssl stuff should be in
ports. Currently these are in the src/contrib tree. I know they
currently have utility there for the base system. We moved the base
away from perl dependence, I think these dependencies should be worked
out as well. I really dislike -stable and -release
having out-of-date versions of these packages.

This is only my personal opinion. I think the WITH_XXXX_OVERWITE_BASE
make options help substantiate it, however.


On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:38:52 -0800, Avleen Vig
<lists-freebsd@silverwraith.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:24:57PM +0800, Kang Liu wrote:
> > Delphij,
> >       I think the base should be as *clean* as possible, it might be
> > better if we put nc into ports. :P
> 
> I agree. base should be minimal, everythign optional (eg 'perl' :P)
> should be in ports. There people can choose the versions (eg 5.6 or
> 5.8), where to install them, etc etc.
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