From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 22:46:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E12B106564A; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF248FC08; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so904334iad.13 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xr/j4z40JRZm9+A/2g+W7pdpH5Q10l4aOuiz/OUT3rk=; b=vemHoPu41lBLdbntQSmzbMXr0ip10Pw8FUA3lyznzODXxsPUeUwbhsHKzqkEOg+eL1 uDOXANWst2Q/PeKisOhS00jeCY0uAoH/4Cc1zFQuUzr6c3B4hc1+02Y3nRW+rcGyTVFu /KIHjHurC4iRhE7Rdb7HFnx7KCfgD8IQuABdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.45.129 with SMTP id e1mr676698ibf.22.1316040381441; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.69 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1976868927.20110914234428@serebryakov.spb.ru> References: <4E6E0FD5.1020609@a1poweruser.com> <1976868927.20110914234428@serebryakov.spb.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Oberman To: lev@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 beta2 & the new bsdinstaller X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:46:22 -0000 2011/9/14 Lev Serebryakov : > Hello, Fbsd8. > You wrote 12 =D3=C5=CE=D4=D1=C2=D2=D1 2011 =C7., 17:57:41: > >> 7. On the partition editor screen the option should be the >> first in the list (ie; left most side) so if user accepts this config, >> hitting enter moves to next menu screen instead of having to tab over >> taking more time and effort. > =9AAnd again: there is no way to change block size/frag size/inode > =9Anumber in GUI. Only SU/SU+J/Version present in "Options" and here is > =9Ano way to change options after partition creation (adding to dialog) > =9Abut BEFORE real FS are created (changes are committed). First, I don't think you get SU+J (soft-updates and full FS journal), which= is a bad combination. I think you get SUJ (journal of metadata) which is a very different and is, I believe the preferred default setup. Second, I frequently want custom newfs options, most notably -b, -f, and -i. There was no way to do this with sysinstall and is still no way to do this with bsdinstall. I suggest an option to specify additional newfs options. The test should note that this is for knowledgeable users and that defaults should be used if you don't understan= d the significance of any options. It should also provide the options that will be passed to newfs if nothing is done. (I'd like to see this in any case, just to avoid confusion on SU+J vs. SUJ.) Of course, all of these are issues that exist with the old installer, but I think can be improved with the move to bsdinstall. --=20 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer - Retired E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com