From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 13:35:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70463395CE for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x129.google.com (mail-il1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mTjW3tlHz412w for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x129.google.com with SMTP id c75so18778703ila.8 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:35:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+4F86d7joH1XGf9J00YZyjCQ7ZFHK7wBXqOeNz0Jzs8=; b=LsJRkgvIoBcPHuu5crJZubu9Vh9jbLOcHOOVeZOvmzhVEduy616mtayOz1oU00pomx a1kBklltf+mWF2Efgdde6iXfawhRdNDfnR9JFvVcZvCwqAFGBB7gO+pK+WZGiftGz4kf 9qnY+A8h69qWAqVb4Vvu5l0xZ2HgjY32t2hOEu+6CQIEMhNbv2rbEjT2U9DAU3tewfYD o5YMyMP50BQVdZfpThcZ2z4D25WtpfZnqlI4Sin2fY5xEogdEkZlGfNgfQXSUzwLbxYt htujbvo3XrJwNzKCHyro/97haqKylTYk4sVZ30kO74JPJPXLrq3AGb9B8PgOL0aIC7xA H0yA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+4F86d7joH1XGf9J00YZyjCQ7ZFHK7wBXqOeNz0Jzs8=; b=gTfVsnErHfUpnEDeDUpku3H6n85DmweeD5DNP7pzFtqbMD3Inwz/m+IfQLXAoTuK28 3V0UsrDDwHTOwKQru9XzEoIrJQvLQuskIIsDvLlTzUwe8ST29Wxpesw1jU6m5pFD0yyP QkiL8I3D/86klGN0f34oI/JV+ONvJD1aixtOiYG+8nUIhOwg4pVVJNHKt6FNmn9wo2hb vQLDcqZeoPhcN9SVQ8pH20U8EDBcZ5GomQ9U+BTkV/W7O3oCVC3sigs7hQyIXMacJYtm vcib7+1LjocCAGFi34mq49fGANjvdsWtNy5kKii2LTsMW6eqMrDnUeE8auXUVdQmIFOc OlOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532IqsK4nC2InJtvTe+ahLIt4TMiKGpwtzWxxr4FM3cGpPvu4+3V 237BTpbfuGLtekW5mR7u+zKvuPqTwU+crk5/euwdzKrM X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwLMI2qDH91MA333g3rom0TT3Kcvt6oTbPiW8s6ZyHQM3T9JzadW4RPnUuwMCkA7hsjhbuR2T3gXuU2uQNmyyU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:10c:: with SMTP id t12mr3050944ilm.187.1592314541867; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:35:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616092901.000002f7@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20200616092901.000002f7@seibercom.net> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:35:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mTjW3tlHz412w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:35:43 -0000 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:29 AM Jerry wrote: > > 1) Not everybody buys the bargain basement item. > > [snip] > 3) In virtually all cases, I never buy the entry level product of any > line. It is almost always the first one to go obsolete and/or not be > supported by its creators. > News for you: 1. Not everyone is made out of money or works for someone who is 2. Some of us have more useful things to do then buying tech we don't need like paying the rent and putting food on our table 3. To deny that the above facts are not true for at least some people is the height of lack of empathy and/or the understanding needed to pick the right defaults for a system that needs to be useful to as many people as possible. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org